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Why Tobey and Andrew Didn’t Have The Avengers on Their Earths

The Marvel Cinematic Univers has brought to the screen some of the most exciting things from the world of comics. It is hard to believe that we have multiple events that are a part of the comics actually brought into live-action. Things were taken to a whole new level when we saw that Spider-Man multiverse being shown as the characters from previous Spider-Man movies showed up in the MCU. Spider-Man: No Way Home actually gave Spider-Man fans a treat that would in general seem to be impossible. But fans are left wondering why Andrew Garfield’s and Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Men didn’t have an Avengers-like team-up. A new MCU theory might be able to explain why the Spider-Men of Tobey and Andrew don’t have the Avengers on their universes.

No Avengers For Tobey and Andrew?

We had gotten a lot of references to the chance of other major Marvel characters featuring in the previous Spider-Man projects. Both the Sam Raimi and Marc Webb movies actually referenced the fact that there are other enhanced characters in the world. One of the scenes in Spider-Man 2 actually makes a reference to the Sorcerer Supreme himself. When J.K. Simmons’ J. Jonah Jameson decides to give a name to Alfred Molina’s Doc Ock, he is suggested the name Doctor Strange by Hoffman. But what makes it far more interesting is when Jameson replies with, “That’s pretty good. But it’s taken!“.


It was only recently discovered that Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man was actually supposed to be a part of the MCU. But these plans were dropped because of some disagreement between the studios that own the property. Even these act like major Easter Eggs, fans actually wondered if going ahead in the future they will meet up with other major Marvel characters. Considering that these Spider-Men are actually just variants of the Tom Holland Spider-Man, it would make sense that they would also have their own Avengers and other characters. But this is not the case based on what we found from one of the most hilarious moments from No Way Home.


Tom Holland’s Avengers Experience

Tom, Tobey and Andrew

When the three Spider-Man team up to fight against the enemies around the final part of No Way Home, we see them struggling to fight as a team. This is mostly because none of the other Spider-Men have fought in a team but Tom Holland’s Spidey has. So he makes a suggestion and the conversation goes as:

“I don’t want to brag, but I will: I was in the Avengers,” Holland exclaims.

“The Avengers? That’s great! What is that?” Maguire questions.

“Wait, you don’t have the Avengers?” Holland asks.

“Is that a band?” Garfield responds. “Are you in a band?”


The scene actually gives us a hilarious moment as Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Men are absolutely clueless about the Avengers. But the scene also acts as a major hint at the fact that these two Spideys might have not encountered any other superheroes. Tom Holland’s Spidey’s experience actually ends up helping them out as he organizes how the final battle should be fought with each individual villain.


Avengers Across The Multiverse

The Disney+ animated series What if…? actually showed us that there are a large number of possibilities in the multiverse. We even got to witness a large range of narratives for the characters that we have gotten used to in the MCU. This was seen in the case of the Loki series too as here we got to see a lot of variants of the God of Mischief himself. Taking the Doctor Strange reference made in the Sam Raimi movies into consideration, there is a possibility that the heroes actually exist in those universes. What might have actually happened is that they didn’t have any such massive event that would bring all these characters together. That could also be the reason why they didn’t end up becoming much celebrated and thus the Spider-Men weren’t aware of them.


Taking each of the characters into perspective, variants of Black Widow and Hawkeye might be working under secrecy in covert operations. In the case of Steve Rogers, the Sam Raimi universe possibly didn’t see him being brought back from being frozen. Thor in this universe could actually still be in Asgard and didn’t probably have any reason to come to Earth as of yet. The same can be said in the case of Marc Webb’s Amazing Spider-Man universe even though the creators actually had plans to link it with the MCU.


Absolute Points

No Way Home actually gives way to one of the most important Spider-Man events that we have seen over the years. Every previous Spider-Man interpretation had Peter Parker being told the line- “with great power comes great responsibility”. This movie actually has this seen happen with the death of Aunt May, whereas in the case of previous renditions it came from a dying Uncle Ben.


Tobey and Andrew

What If…? actually gave us some of the most essential explanations regarding how the MCU works. One of these moments came when Doctor Strange was trying to undo the death of Christine Palmer and he is told by the Ancient One that it is actually an “absolute point”. This event cannot be avoided and undoing it, is what leads to the circumstances Strange Supreme finds himself in. Thus, we can be absolutely sure that getting to hear that line of advice is an absolute point for every universe that has a Spider-Man. This very line is what brings a certain level of maturity to the character of Spider-Man.


This would mean that these universes were destined to have a Spider-Man, and thus we can imagine that the other heroes might not be far behind. Each of the Avengers requires to be sent into the circumstances that help them become the hero we have gotten used to. In the case of Captain America, it could be the Super Soldier Serum or getting frozen in the ice. Similarly, for Tony Stark, it would be getting taken by the terrorists. The other characters will have their own versions of these Absolute Points. So, even though the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man universe didn’t get the Avengers yet, the happening of this event is actually inevitable.


One of the most crucial scenes in MCU had Doctor Strange navigate around 14,000,605 alternate futures to find the one where the Avengers succeed. This actually indicates that this many realities actually indicates that there are this many realities that have an Avengers team-up. As the MCU continues to expand on the Multiverse, we are surely going to get a lot more of this narrative being played out. There are even plans that we might get to see more of the characters who have appeared through the multiverse narrative.


Sam Raimi is now at the helm of the upcoming Doctor Strange sequel, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It would actually be rather interesting to see him bring some context to the Easter egg that he made in Spider-Man 2. We are already aware, that the movie is set to feature three variants of Doctor Strange, it would not be surprising to see the variant that was referenced by him also being a part of the project.

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will be released in theaters worldwide on May 6.

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