Avengers: Endgame will largely portray a story where the rest of the Avengers who survived the Decimation will not move on and fight for setting things right trying to beat Thanos. While most people believe that these upcoming events will work to undo the snap or prevent it from ever happening in the first place, there’s a new Avengers: Endgame theory that begs us to ask the question of what if the big snap doesn’t get undone?
We’ve seen the Spider-Man trailer and things just look to be normal. No one seems to be coming off of a world-ending stage and people are happy. So Reddit user Enervata has worked out a theory explaining that instead of wiping out half the Universe’s inhabitants with the snap, Thanos actually created an alternate universe and tossed half the occupants into this other universe via the “dusting”. He asks what if this alternate universe is the one that Marvel moves forward with in the future and the ones who survived at the end of Infinity War get left behind?
Here’s the logical thinking that he presents behind it:
“Everyone who got “dusted” is strongly implied to still be alive moving forward in the Marvel franchise (Spider-man, Nick Fury, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Wasp, Most of the Guardians, Bucky, etc). Everyone who is still alive at the end of Infinity War, have very uncertain futures in the movies moving forward (Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Nebula, etc). Looking at the list of “survivors”, while it would be sad to no longer see them on the screen, they’ve kind of had their run already. All the new guys got snapped, all the veterans were left behind.
If the snap gets undone, we still have headlining superheroes (Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, etc) all waiting to launch into action to save the day again. That’s a problem based on the future planned movie schedule. That means you’d have to kill off or explain why every major surviving character becomes retired after End Game’s credits roll. That’s difficult to achieve. Almost impossible to achieve even with 3 hours.”
At this point in time, we really don’t know what Marvel is doing with the plot of this particular film. It is going to be the longest and the greatest MCU movie that we have ever seen, but the Redditor is actually right about the fact that there are just 3 hours for the Russos to wrap things up and make the future hopeful and fun.
It would be too far of a stretch to believe that all the characters around Spider-Man conveniently got dusted and transported to the second Universe along with Spider-Man, and that is where this theory falls apart. But the Redditor does have a case to present here, and these are the two possibilities that he thinks could work according to his theory:
1) The survivors sacrifice their universe to save the other one, or
2) The survivors defeat the villain/scenario only to ensure that the stones can never be used again, but the universes remain split.
Now let’s see what all this would mean for the larger MCU and its future beyond Avengers: Endgame:
“Marvel loves the multiverse, and the Quantum Realm supposedly connects all the universes so there’s still a chance here or there for a cross-over or cameo. Leaving the Quantum Realm as the hub also leaves an out to why Ant-Man and Captain Marvel could still end up in the “new” universe, as they can both travel there. (Captain Marvel is expected to based on her comic book history.)
It gives Marvel an easy excuse on how to introduce X-men and Fantastic Four. They only exist in the new universe, not the old one.
It gives Marvel a brand new batch of origin stories for core character replacements. She-Hulk becomes the new Hulk equivalent. Bucky (or Falcon) becomes the new Cap. Etc.
It gives fans closure to the original Avengers without (maybe) killing them all off. What could be more heroic, and also solemn, than the characters overcoming the challenge just to make the right decision and let everyone still live, but just apart?
It also means Doctor Strange totally kept his word that he’d sacrifice anyone rather than give up the stone. (He’ll get it back, and Tony will be “dead” in his universe.) Also he’s totally kind of a dick for seeing this end result and not telling anyone.
The only ones who know the fate of the original universe will be potentially Ant-Man, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange.
It means the Black Widow movie is almost definitely a prequel.
It means Loki, Heimdall, and Gamora (sans some “I was actually in the Soul Stone and got released” deus ex machina) are really dead and gone for good.
If the original universe sacrifices itself (out on a limb) to save the new universe, they’ve already kind of given us reasons why. Stark will save Peter (pseudo-son). Rocket saves Groot (who called him “dad”). Cap saves Bucky and Falcon. Okoye saves T’Challa. Hawk-eye saves his family (likely based on speculation). Hulk and Widow get to be with each other at the end. Etc.”
Well, all this presents a great case for itself, but with various reports of the future of the MCU, a Vision and the Scarlet Witch TV Series, a Loki series and as mentioned above, all of Spider-Man’s friends and Aunt May present along with him having fun all across Europe just doesn’t support the case of everyone being in an Alternate Universe.
Black Widow will surely be a prequel but a female team-up movie will not really be possible if this alternate universe thing were to be true. Also, this gives a very easy pass to story-telling, and that is why I don’t think this would be the case.
Avengers: Endgame Release – April 26.