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Has Batman Defeated The Joker Already in Matt Reeves’ Universe?

The Batman took the narrative of the caped crusader through a whole new spin. This time around we got to see the character with a lot less experience and still working on himself for a balance between his two personas. A lot of the focus in the movie would be around the early years of Batman and his run as the character dealing with massive threats. There was a lot this movie managed to set up in terms of enemies that Batman might end up facing going ahead. But one of the most exciting has to be the presence of Joker in this take on Batman. Barry Keoghan’s cameo as Joker in The Batman has left us wondering whether Batman defeated The Joker in the past already.

Joker In The Batman

Right around the end of the movie, we discover that the Riddler had a lot more to his plans than we might have expected. The character had put bombs on the seawalls in order to flood Gotham and the plan actually worked out. But around the end, he would see that the city had still managed to survive and it was a lot more hopeful than the Riddler might have imagined. As he realizes the failure of his plan, we hear a voice from the cell next to him. It is none other than the Joker himself and the conversation between the two clearly indicates that we will get to see things from the future of the duo.


Matt Reeves Reveals Regarding Joker

Batman defeated The Joker?!

There was actually supposed to be a deleted scene featuring the character from the movie. In an interview with IGN, Reeves talked about this deleted scene and how it would have worked in the movie. He stated:

What’s interesting is that the reason that Joker’s in the movie is there was actually another scene that was earlier. And because the movie is not an origin tale for Batman, but it’s his early days, it really is an origin tale for the Rogue’s Gallery’s characters. And for me, I think [it’s] this idea that the Joker is not yet the Joker, but they already have this relationship.


He added:

The scene that was not in the movie, the scene that this is really the companion to, which is actually a really cool scene that will release at some point, it’s a scene where Batman is so unnerved because the Riddler is writing to him. And he’s like, ‘Well, why is this guy writing to me?’ And he figures he’s got to profile this killer.

He goes to see another killer that he’s clearly had an experience with in these first two years. And this killer in this story is not yet the character that we come to know, right? So everybody’s in their infancy. So in the comics, these characters often declare their alter egos in response to the fact that there’s a Batman out there. And so here, we have a Joker who’s not yet the Joker.


Why Was Keoghans’ Joker in Arkham?

Batman defeated The Joker?!

Reeves was further asked about the history of Keoghan’s Joker in this universe. In an interview with Variety, the director talked about the character and how the deleted scene would have worked in the movie. The scene would have actually indicated that there was a certain history that the caped crusader had with Joker. There was even supposed to be a dialogue where the clown prince would have stated that it was almost their “anniversary“. Reeves stated:

You realize that they have a relationship, and that this guy obviously did something, and Batman somehow got him into Arkham.


This could be a teaser to the possible future antagonist that Batman might have to face. But at the same time, it might be a narrative that might be explored quite later in the franchise instead of being brought in right away. If the character actually manages to come around, things might prove to be quite difficult for Batman and he has to work on himself to be able to deal with the Clown Prince of Gotham. Barry Keoghan is a brilliant actor and it would be interesting to see the actor actually perform in the role of Joker instead of a voice cameo.


The Batman is now playing theaters worldwide.

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